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	<title>Comments on: Best WotLK Weapon Enchant for Protection Paladins</title>
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		<title>By: lidriana</title>
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		<dc:creator>lidriana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 18:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>scratch that lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>scratch that lol</p>
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		<title>By: lidriana</title>
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		<dc:creator>lidriana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmmm..no mention here about armsmen. Isn&#039;t increased threat the goal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmm..no mention here about armsmen. Isn’t increased threat the goal?</p>
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		<title>By: Lever</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 01:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Survivability, survivability and survivability, so the Blood Draining is the best. When you have low hp and you pray that the Mongoose will proc it doesn&#039;t. Blade Ward is the worst choice to pick, parry sucks at PvE so don&#039;t even think about it anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Survivability, survivability and survivability, so the Blood Draining is the best. When you have low hp and you pray that the Mongoose will proc it doesn’t. Blade Ward is the worst choice to pick, parry sucks at PvE so don’t even think about it anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Citronelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Citronelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 01:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, yeah, I&#039;m still lost on your logic.


 I can&#039;t see why you think the stam nerf has anything to do with moving mongoose into 1st place choice over tieing with bladeward previosuly (based on &quot;preference&quot; or playing style&quot;) It&#039;s ALWAYS  offered more avoidance (for the exception of bladeward maybe proc&#039;ing again to stack BEFORE you parry to dispel the effect. (which is less likely to happen than the enchant procing in the first place).

And isn&#039;t that what we&#039;re concerned with as tanks? Achieving the most EH? I mean why wouldn&#039;t you have picked mongoose before the nerf if it&#039;s always been the better choice statistically? Even if your health is insane buffed, that&#039;s no reason to quit. Keep going I say! Make your tank even more retarded in terms of EH. 

 Saying mongoose is better now vs bladeward because of the stam nerf still doesn&#039;t make sense to me, but maybe you can break it down for me?

 And as far as end game raiding goes, while &quot;Chill of the Throne&quot; is in play, Bladeward starts to suck a little more considering you&#039;re gonna see more parrying over a dodge or miss on your avoidance table (preceded by block of course for warriors and especially paladins). So that means the chance of the effect dispelling is now even higher, even if it stacked to maybe BRIEFLY be superior to the avoidance of mongoose. 

 Mongoose however continues to, once again, proc way more, offer as much threat and doesn&#039;t dispel until the effect times out. It&#039;ll probably proc again within the next 10 to 15 seconds, after it does.

And while you might say, &quot;Well, with -20% dodge, why even worry with 120 agi proc?&quot;

The answer is because we still treat dodge as though the -20% isn&#039;t in effect. Changing gear or gemming for parry isn&#039;t very smart considering you get dramatically less in terms of avoidance from parry rating than you do dodge rating or agi. Also, you&#039;ll continue to notice crazy amounts of dodge on the gear out of ICC. So, no real reason to get out of dodge. It is what it is.  Now I know that diminsishing returns is still a tireless enemy but with mongoose and evasion up, my dodge chance is back @ 15%  I hope they offer a 2.0 version or something of the enchant in Cataclysm.

Sorry, for the rant, or if I went off topic, I&#039;m just incredibly passionate as I&#039;ve debated this topic many times before. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, yeah, I’m still lost on your logic.</p>
<p> I can’t see why you think the stam nerf has anything to do with moving mongoose into 1st place choice over tieing with bladeward previosuly (based on “preference” or playing style”) It’s ALWAYS  offered more avoidance (for the exception of bladeward maybe proc’ing again to stack BEFORE you parry to dispel the effect. (which is less likely to happen than the enchant procing in the first place).</p>
<p>And isn’t that what we’re concerned with as tanks? Achieving the most EH? I mean why wouldn’t you have picked mongoose before the nerf if it’s always been the better choice statistically? Even if your health is insane buffed, that’s no reason to quit. Keep going I say! Make your tank even more retarded in terms of EH. </p>
<p> Saying mongoose is better now vs bladeward because of the stam nerf still doesn’t make sense to me, but maybe you can break it down for me?</p>
<p> And as far as end game raiding goes, while “Chill of the Throne” is in play, Bladeward starts to suck a little more considering you’re gonna see more parrying over a dodge or miss on your avoidance table (preceded by block of course for warriors and especially paladins). So that means the chance of the effect dispelling is now even higher, even if it stacked to maybe BRIEFLY be superior to the avoidance of mongoose. </p>
<p> Mongoose however continues to, once again, proc way more, offer as much threat and doesn’t dispel until the effect times out. It’ll probably proc again within the next 10 to 15 seconds, after it does.</p>
<p>And while you might say, “Well, with –20% dodge, why even worry with 120 agi proc?”</p>
<p>The answer is because we still treat dodge as though the –20% isn’t in effect. Changing gear or gemming for parry isn’t very smart considering you get dramatically less in terms of avoidance from parry rating than you do dodge rating or agi. Also, you’ll continue to notice crazy amounts of dodge on the gear out of ICC. So, no real reason to get out of dodge. It is what it is.  Now I know that diminsishing returns is still a tireless enemy but with mongoose and evasion up, my dodge chance is back @ 15%  I hope they offer a 2.0 version or something of the enchant in Cataclysm.</p>
<p>Sorry, for the rant, or if I went off topic, I’m just incredibly passionate as I’ve debated this topic many times before. <img src='http://itankstuff.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Peli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s quite simple; pre-Stam nerf we weren&#039;t particularly concerned about the agility bonus and opted for the proc of the BladeWard; what with having around 63K raid buffed; now that our stam has been nerfed - Mine has personally been reduced to around 58K raid buffed; the agility does have a major affect our EH and is, in my opinion, only now &quot;far&quot; more appealing than BladeWard. It always been benificial but only for the lower geared or those that are overly concerened that their healers aren&#039;t up for the task.

Ultimatly it used to be personal preference and of course your own playing style matched against that of your raid groups playing style as a whole. Now? No choice but to go with Mongoose; not entirely a bad thing but I do miss BladeWward on the odd occassion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s quite simple; pre-Stam nerf we weren’t particularly concerned about the agility bonus and opted for the proc of the BladeWard; what with having around 63K raid buffed; now that our stam has been nerfed — Mine has personally been reduced to around 58K raid buffed; the agility does have a major affect our EH and is, in my opinion, only now “far” more appealing than BladeWard. It always been benificial but only for the lower geared or those that are overly concerened that their healers aren’t up for the task.</p>
<p>Ultimatly it used to be personal preference and of course your own playing style matched against that of your raid groups playing style as a whole. Now? No choice but to go with Mongoose; not entirely a bad thing but I do miss BladeWward on the odd occassion.</p>
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		<title>By: Citronelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Citronelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stamina changes shouldn&#039;t be even related to this topic. Mongoose was the best before the - 4% scale down and still is afterwards. There isn&#039;t a stam enchant to a 1h that makes it a &quot;factor&quot; in this discussion or outweigh the benefits of Mongoose.  So, I guess I&#039;m agreeing with Thorogar and questionong Peli? Idk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stamina changes shouldn’t be even related to this topic. Mongoose was the best before the — 4% scale down and still is afterwards. There isn’t a stam enchant to a 1h that makes it a “factor” in this discussion or outweigh the benefits of Mongoose.  So, I guess I’m agreeing with Thorogar and questionong Peli? Idk.</p>
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		<title>By: Thorogar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thorogar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be that as it may, I just asked for evidence concerning the influence of stam changes on the situation. (Mind: I did not say there are any. Peli did just that.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be that as it may, I just asked for evidence concerning the influence of stam changes on the situation. (Mind: I did not say there are any. Peli did just that.)</p>
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		<title>By: Citronelle</title>
		<link>http://itankstuff.com/world-of-warcraft/featured-articles/best-wotlk-weapon-enchant-for-protection-paladins/comment-page-1/#comment-10790</link>
		<dc:creator>Citronelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What was the best enchant before the stamina nerf then? I can&#039;t think of anything that was better than DA GOOSE?!?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What was the best enchant before the stamina nerf then? I can’t think of anything that was better than DA GOOSE?!?!</p>
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		<title>By: Thorogar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thorogar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 08:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What kind of enchant would that be ? Could you supply a link to wowhead oder thottbot ? (Are you mixing this up with the bracer enchant ?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What kind of enchant would that be ? Could you supply a link to wowhead oder thottbot ? (Are you mixing this up with the bracer enchant ?)</p>
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		<title>By: Thorogar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thorogar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 08:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could you supply mathematical justification for the impact of the 3.3 stam nerfs on the enchantmens situation ?</description>
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